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  • Steve_Sr
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    I just tried Hawaii and everything worked! Then tried Arizona… Same problem. Apparently downloads file, then spins on “unzipping…” for a LONG time and eventually fails with the previously mentioned error message. So if Orux is actually doing the Unzipping is it time to get Jose involved in fixing this? BTW, he needs to use Alaska for his test case!

    I am also wondering if you might have a different Android unzip library or replacement app that will handle these larger archives while the stock one won’t. My phone is running the last release of Android 8.0.0 before the 9.0 (pie) update. It also being new has few additions to it other than Fx for file management… which had NO trouble unzipping the single Carolina map.

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Steve_Sr
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    Hawaii is TINY compared to the rest. Try Carolina / Georgia. That is the one that failed on me. BTW, I only have a 3.5 mb connection so downloads take a while but if all goes well you only have to do it once. It would be nice if there was a way to queue multiple downloads like OsmAnd.

    So is the POI included in the V4 base map ZIP file? There is nothing on the web site to indicate what is included in a particular download. It would be nice to indicate in a note somewhere what is included in a particular download.

    So is there a script running somewhere on the “red” links that tell the browser to download the zip file, unzip it, and then move the resulting files to the proper destination? Something in this chain is apparently broken for large map files.

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Steve_Sr
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    I followed the instructions and links on this web site. Apparently the POIs don’t self-install… at least I don’t see any link for that. Just green download link.

    To install the maps I clicked on the red “Install on OruxMaps” link which led to the above issues. As recommended I used the Chrome browser on the device to start the download. I was trying to do this all on the new S8 as transferring large and large quantities of files is a pain.

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Steve_Sr
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    Hi Steve,
    i am having a slight problem to understand & reproduce what might went wrong…;-)

    I assume you have OruxMaps 7.4.22 from https://www.oruxmaps.com/cs/en/more/downloads or the recent OruxMaps from the GooglePlay store installed.

    You wrote about “downloading maps and POI files”, hmmm. Which map? Maybe a very big one, where unzip fails for some reason?
    Try a very small map (e.g.->Germany -> Berlin), use the red “Android Install on OruxMaps_V4” button.
    As a result the map and POI file should be in the default subdirectory of OruxMaps.
    You may need to hit the “refresh symbol” in OruxMaps at the top of “Switch map”->”OFFLINE”, to see the berlin_ML.

    After you have succuessfully opened an offline mapsforge map in OruxMaps, you can select the Mapsforge theme to be used.
    Matthias

    • This reply was modified 3 days, 1 hour ago by  Matthias.

    I tried several U.S. maps. sizes are 200-600MB. Fx has no problem unzipping files of this size. Why can’t stock Android? This would be a BIG problem for U.S. users as all of the files are large. What Android component are you using to do the unzipping? Doesn’t seem to work. Was it ever tested on a large file? Need to find an alternative.

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Steve_Sr
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    Christian,

    Thanks for your feedback. I do realize that track points are (or should be) connected with straight lines by whatever app is reading/interpreting them. However, I don’t believe that this is the display issue that I am seeing and that somehow increasing point density is going to solve it. I think the points are already there and Orux (and maybe QV – I have no way of checking) is having difficulty in properly interpreting them or just dropping them. The app appears to be just ignoring/dropping points for upwards of several miles. Point density won’t fix this.

    I know what you are saying about different map sources. This effect shows up vividly in Ride With GPS when switching from OSM maps to Google Maps. I have not found this to be a big deal when navigating. The maps are close enough that the correct route is pretty obvious.

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Christian,

    Thanks for your converted file. I loaded it into Orux and although it is much better there are still a couple of issues. First, there are no waypoints as were present in the original GPX file. I don’t know if CV removed them or has its own issues with Garmin files. Second, although the tracks now look contiguous there are still several instances (through Franklinton and south of Stovall) where the track deviates from roads for considerable distances and is connected with straight lines, same as in the original Basecamp file on Orux.

    So, It looks like these are Orux issues? I have left a note on the Orux bug forum but have not heard anything in about a week. Jose must be on holiday!

    Thanks,

    Steve

    in reply to: Street Text Size & Zoom Issues? #10234

    Steve_Sr
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    I think I just noticed something really bizarre with Orux. There is pinch zoom and there is volume button zoom but they don’t appear to track at least according to the zoom level on the Orux dashboard! I.e. at 100% zoom on the dashboard the displayed map can be considerably different area depending which zoom was used to get there. Is this the expected behavior? It is really confusing and may be part of the street name issue.

    There are two kinds of zooms: digital zoom and zoom levels.
    Digital zoom is like a magnifying glass and is the %-value, it’s just like magnifying a paper map, you don’t see more details, but everything on the map gets larger.
    Zoom level, the integer shown at the dashboard, is like changing between different paper maps with different scales. E.g. ZL 12 is more like a road atlas with only major elements, ZL 16 is more like a topographic map with many details.
    I personally don’t use digital zoom with OpenAndroMaps vector maps, they are perfectly legible for me on my phone. If I use raster maps like the general overview maps or various online maps, it’s not possible to change text size, and those are made for less ppi. There it makes sense to change digital zoom.
    How you can trigger (or disable) digital zoom or zoom levels is set by “Global settings”->”Maps”->”Zoom settings”
    Also have a look at the OruxMaps manual for this.

    Thanks for the quick tutorial on the zoom functionality of Orux. Using the USA / North Carolina map it takes a map zoom level of at least 19 but usually 20 before the road names start showing up on the map and they are barely legible indoors with good glasses on my GS4. From here I can digital zoom in to see the names clearly outdoors or zoom out to see enough of the map to decide where I am going. This may work out better when I am actually following a map route on my upcoming tour. Right now I am just riding around my neighborhood.

    I was reading on your blog that you have Elevate 4 almost ready to go. I see that you are mostly using an emulator on Windows for development. I am going on a month long cycle tour and would be glad to evaluate it for you on my Galaxy S4 if you would like. I would probably need a little help installing it and be able to revert to Elevate 3 if I ran into a serious issue. Please let me know.

    Thanks for the offer. I tested of course on actual devices, but I only have 240ppi and 320ppi at hand, so other ppi are tested in an emulator. But of course any testing is welcome.
    You can install Elevate 4 next to Elevate XL without problems, as it uses different filenames, and switch between them how you want. Just use the quick install link for OruxMaps in an Android browser in your phone.

    Best regards,
    Tobias
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    I tried to install Elevate 4 but ran into difficulties. The quick install doesn’t have the 4 rc2 in it yet. I manually got the Zip files but it downloaded into the BCN directory and the XML file names are the same as the ones for 3 but peeking inside had the 4rc2 comments so I have the right files. Do I need to rename them or do something else to get them to play with 3 on Orux?

    Best regards,

    Steve

    in reply to: Street Text Size & Zoom Issues? #10161

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    It all comes down to what the underlying vector library currently supports for street label rendering.

    That’s Mapsforge and it’s already known that there is room for improvements in that area. We’re aware of that.
    Emux

    Thanks for the explanation! After more research it appears that the Mapsforge map format is completely different than the one that OsmAnd uses so it is illogical to expect similar behavior. Users can only hope that this gets improved in future releases as it is really holding back an otherwise great app.

    in reply to: Street Text Size & Zoom Issues? #10125

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Hi Steve,
    it’s logical if the text size increases that fewer street names are displayed. Street names can only be shown on straight parts that are long enough to display the whole name, so the smaller the text size the easier it is to have a long name displayed. So maybe you don’t see the increase as it’s not big enough for you to make a difference, but it makes a difference to the space available for street names.
    Best regards,
    Tobias

    Tobias,

    This makes sense for the street names but doesn’t really help the usability. I just looked at OSMand+ and the text is a little bigger than road is wide and also follows the curve of the road. However, the road still needs to be long enough (or the zoom level high enough) for the name to fit on the road. It would be nice if Elevate/Orux could support this kind of behavior.

    I think I just noticed something really bizarre with Orux. There is pinch zoom and there is volume button zoom but they don’t appear to track at least according to the zoom level on the Orux dashboard! I.e. at 100% zoom on the dashboard the displayed map can be considerably different area depending which zoom was used to get there. Is this the expected behavior? It is really confusing and may be part of the street name issue.

    I was reading on your blog that you have Elevate 4 almost ready to go. I see that you are mostly using an emulator on Windows for development. I am going on a month long cycle tour and would be glad to evaluate it for you on my Galaxy S4 if you would like. I would probably need a little help installing it and be able to revert to Elevate 3 if I ran into a serious issue. Please let me know.

    Best regards,

    Steve

    in reply to: Street Text Size & Zoom Issues? #10108

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Well, I am pretty sure that I have the correct Elevate XL theme selected. Increasing the text size multiplier appears to do nothing to the text size but the larger that number is the fewer street names are actually displayed! 1.0 shows them all but too small. 2.0 shows none! in between the size stays the same but the number of names decreases as the multiplier goes up.

    I’m headed to Orux Forums…

    Cheers,

    Steve

    in reply to: Map Installed – Blank Screen! #9480

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Hi Steve,
    your position is probably not covered by the map, that’s why it’s blank.
    Try this:
    Map symbol in top bar -> Center map -> Center of map
    Now you should be in a position of the coverage of the map.

    Actually, It appears to have been a zoom level issue I found thanks to Google.

    Again it would be helpful if Orux could default to map center zoomed in on switching or installing a render theme. If a user is installing a render theme and gets a blank screen he assumes that there is an issue with the installation of the render theme. On the other hand if he sees a zoomed in map at least he knows to look for the “zoom out” button!

    Hi Steve,
    We’re recommending using Elevate theme, here are additional instructions:
    http://static1.openandromaps.org/wp-content/users/tobias/installation.txt

    Got the Orux update and installed elevate 3XL for my Samsung GS4. Looks nice!

    Now all I have to find is the button to center the map on my current GPS location. All of my other map apps seem to have this right on top. This way I can start using Orux as a “pocket map” until I actually need it to start navigating.

    Best regards,
    Steve

    in reply to: Broken! – Won't Download Maps – Dead In Water #9363

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Thanks for the update. Unfortunately I am obviously NOT a sophisticated Android user. I am used to using a Windows PC where there is lots of screen room to provide user feedback. A simple note in the install instructions to check Android notifications for download progress would be enough to prevent another novice user from falling into this rabbit hole.

    in reply to: Broken! – Won't Download Maps – Dead In Water #9332

    Steve_Sr
    Participant

    Hi Steve,

    You are right, Orux doesnt show a progress bar or something similar -that’s annoying when you try quick install first.
    However, you can see the downlod in the Android notification bar.

    Well it is MORE than annoying to a new novice user. It is just plain bad design to leave any user hanging with no feedback at all. I hope the developers can figure out a way to fix this.

    Making all of this worse is the Quick Start video that does show some kind of download bar in the application. I don’t know what this is/was but it just confirmed that my device wasn’t downloading. The video should be updated or removed.

    Thanks,

    Steve

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